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Reply #15 - Feb 1st, 2010 at 11:01am
 
Bob,

It's hard to tell from the photos, but it looks to me like the Wren zoomed into the ground at high speed, and the landing gear caught on the grass, breaking the fuselage at the gear mounts.  It looks like both rear LG wires were bent in the process.  Any possibility that the stab was not set properly for a good climb, or the noseblock had extra downthrust from the higher winds?

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Reply #16 - Feb 1st, 2010 at 2:27pm
 
[quote author=Bob_Morris..... I must have put the nose block in upside down for the first flight on about 700 turns because the model went out horizontal then turned, went straight for the flightline, and landed on top of a car.


Always best to have the noseblock go in only one way, and to have a big black dot on the top of it so as in the rush of getting it back in at full winds one does not mess up.

Nice model, and like the red stripes on the fuselage.

Re. fixing it.........Man made, man can fix it.  And always worth while.
Often they fly even better after a fix up.
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Re: Wren repair
Reply #17 - Feb 1st, 2010 at 6:18pm
 
Sorry for the fuzzy photo but here we are ready to rock and roll at 73 gm, an increase of 3 gm, mostly in the front.  This one needed tail weight as built so that's where I have been putting the radio.  Time for complete rebalancing and retrimming.

Warhawk, the most recent collision at Geneseo was with a car which was more or less unscathed but there was in fact an earlier high speed collision with the ground which did some damage.  Early on I was trimming out the unwanted built-in downthrust with temporary shims and it coughed and spit one out toward the end of the power run, whereupon the model went nose down and hit the ground under power. I might have missed a crack while repairing after that incident.

Gossie - I think I'll take your advice and key the nose block so it only goes in one way, because the big orange arrow on top of it apparently wasn't enough foolproofing.
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Reply #18 - Feb 3rd, 2010 at 12:22pm
 
Glide test today confirmed that the plane is now nose heavy so I moved the radio as far back as possible and used thick wall tube for the peg.  Now I can get it to stall a little on the glide with the incidence screw set as shown.
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Reply #19 - Feb 3rd, 2010 at 12:25pm
 
Here is the 1987 Heeb plan courtesy of Pete Money showing various CG locations.   Jim M. says his flies with CG about 1/2" forward of that indicated on the plan.
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Reply #20 - Feb 3rd, 2010 at 12:32pm
 
It looks close enough for some flight tests but could probably use a little more tail weight.  My prop wasn't that light to start with and the added fiberglass needs to be counterbalanced.
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Reply #21 - Feb 3rd, 2010 at 4:46pm
 
>Jim M. says his flies with CG about 1/2" forward of that indicated on the plan.

All three have been in that ballpark but those of others may vary due to differences in trimming techniques, with regard to incidences, etc.

A lovely forgiving reliable design.
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Reply #22 - Mar 22nd, 2010 at 3:43pm
 
I moved the radio beacon to the farthest aft position and the wire antenna extends out from the tail.  Here is a test flight on 150 turns yesterday.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uaw_9sYkBjo
Note the final approach and runway landing.  Almost looks like it has a mind of its own.
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Reply #23 - Jul 12th, 2010 at 3:45pm
 
Yesterday we took the Wren out to the Barron Field for some test/fun flying. The last time out at the end of May it had experienced more fuselage damage which I finally traced to the one-size-fits-all car stooge in the trunk of the Honda Civic. I think that has been the problem since last September.  So I patched it up again and from now on will wind it on the regular stooge shown in the picture. 
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Reply #24 - Jul 12th, 2010 at 3:54pm
 
Here is a shot of Miriam bringing the golf cart down field. It had rained hard on Saturday and we didn't want to venture onto the strips of freshly-plowed black dirt. They call it "muck" for a reason. We started with an uneventful 325 turn flight and worked up to a stately 550 turn flight which DT'd onto sod at about 1 minute. It was a little breezy and blowing toward the corn, which is already passed 6 ft high, so we switched to Miriam's Catapiglet. 
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Reply #25 - Jul 12th, 2010 at 3:57pm
 
Here's another shot of the model showing the corn lurking in the background.
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Reply #26 - Jul 12th, 2010 at 4:16pm
 
We did our flying later in the afternoon to avoid the heat. Earlier in the afternoon we visited Museum Village about 20 minutes away in Monroe NY where, among many other things, they have a locally excavated Mastodon on display.  This is a little off topic but the beautiful farmlands and flying fields in the NY Black Dirt Country are what remains of a glacial lake bed and marshland where these creatures roamed with giant beavers and ground sloths (the other skeleton in the picture) 10-15,000 years ago. Thomas Jefferson collected mastodon bones here and was hopeful that Lewis and Clark would locate living specimens out west.
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Reply #27 - Jul 31st, 2010 at 7:12pm
 
Here's the Wren on 660 turns earlier "today." This is a little more that 50% of breaking turns for the 36 gm 14 strand 1/8" Tan SS motor.  http://vimeo.com/13792078 Wren seems to be fixed and giving repeatable flights.
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Reply #28 - Aug 1st, 2010 at 9:09am
 
WOW!
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